Doomsday Thread Redux

Nukes can be made way smaller than you think. I don't want any visits, so I'll stop there, but with the materials, hiroshima size can be put in a 2" missile. Castle bravo size needs a traincar load of lithium deuteride, but a will light b. That's why we worry so much about that stuff.
 
The guy speaking is an actual doctor? How is that a conspiracy?? These are facts he is presenting, hard data and evidence. Sounds like a lot of people are trying to justify an experimental vaccine. To each his own, I guess we’ll find out the truth in a couple years.

Nothing against anybody, this is a free country and you can do as you please.
 
Chingon1 said:
The guy speaking is an actual doctor? How is that a conspiracy?? These are facts he is presenting, hard data and evidence. Sounds like a lot of people are trying to justify an experimental vaccine. To each his own, I guess we’ll find out the truth in a couple years.

Nothing against anybody, this is a free country and you can do as you please.
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The video itself says they started seeing these abnormal clots in 2020, yet the first vaccines weren't available to the most vulnerable (old people) until mid December 2020, and weren't being administered en-masse until early spring 2021. I don't need a doctorate to have a good memory.

If these were actually showing up in 2020 I'd speculate it might be a lesser known effect of Covid 19 itself, but then it's a fake disease:rolleyes2:
 
I for one really don’t think the Gov has our best interest or in mind. When has any gov in history really had its people life’s in high regard??

Never, and people really want to trust fauci. Sheesh. Also data has shown that the people who are now more likely to catch covid, are the vaxxed. But hey be my guest.
 
Chingon1 said:
I for one really don’t think the Gov has our best interest or in mind. When has any gov in history really had its people life’s in high regard??

Never, and people really want to trust fauci. Sheesh. Also data has shown that the people who are now more likely to catch covid, are the vaxxed. But hey be my guest.
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Yet the Gov and Fauci's biggest supporters are the pro-vaxxers... that they're killing?
 
seems like it, zombies who don’t ask questions and do what they are told. What’s next?


Jamie Kennedy said it best


 
Chingon1 said:
seems like it, zombies who don’t ask questions and do what they are told. What’s next?


Jamie Kennedy said it best


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So once again the government wants the people who do question their every move alive? .....Or maybe the dead reanimate and become literal zombies and come for those of us who know what's REALLY going on!

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Yeah, even I am confused.

Anyways, how's everyone's draft cards looking? :rofl:
 
I don’t need to resort to name calling. It’s sad, you guys live like that. Never questioning anything.

What about asbestos? I’m sure you guys know that NOW it’s considered very dangerous and causes cancer, before that shit was in everybodies houses and was considered very safe.

what about if in 50 years when all the data comes out you guys are wrong?? What then? Am I gonna get an apology??

I respect you guys and pretty much the only reason I’m on here is for the bird. And the only reason I bring it up is because this thread is meant for topics like this.
 
Yes I agree with the first point, keep it civil Greg. This topic is ok to hash this shit out but if it becomes a situation where we're driving ourselves off the site I'm locking it, at least for periodic cool offs.


Having said that, when absolutely nothing happens in 50 years I want an explanation lol
 
Fair enough. You're right. Is that what you wanted to hear ?

Asbestos is bad .. I was exposed to that in a basement at Santa Clara university, it's in my medical records. Chrystaline Silicosis is the new shit. That's just as bad or worse. There's a difference between knowing something is bad and then you see the people that either don't know, or don't care. I've inhaled more toxic chemicals than I care to admit and some I don't know what they are or what they did. Or what my mother was doing at the microchip manufacturing facility while pregnant with me .. well the results are clear. Genetic mutation and OCD. What about Red 40 ? Tip of the iceberg as far as food safety goes. And what's really in your drinking water? I certainly would not drink it out of the tap; and bottled water is full of microplastics. When you grow a tumor in 30 years, you can thank me for letting you know now. 😉
 
@XR7-4.6 haha fair enough, I’ll keep you in mind in 50 years!!

@dDUBb you’re totally right, there plenty of things that are screwing us over. red 3 is going to be outlawed in a couple years also. Same thing with fluoride in the tooth paste and our tap water. Also aluminum in our deodorants.

I just really like to question and look into things because one’s health is no laughing matter and should be taken very seriously. You can be a millionaire but if your healths in the shitter, there’s no buying your way out of it.
 
Aluminum is in anti perspirants. It prevents you from sweating. Deodorant is just a mask to cover the smell. That's the difference there, I use one product over the other for my own reasons.
 
I like to as well, and there are straight up conspiracy theories I maybe am not fully sold on but see the Occam's razor path to probability in a few(which I'll keep to myself), but I don't think it's fair to label people as sheep with their heads buried in the sand just because they're skeptical, I've gone deep with some, I find them kind of entertaining if nothing else, but questioning everything is just that, questioning EVERYTHING, whether it's the official story or the theories themselves, as at the end of the day I feel the need to look at people's motivations, theirs included, even if it's just clout.
 
Reminds me of something said during a jobsite safety meeting topic at work. It's some BS "awareness week" and they said something along the lines of "treat people how They want to be treated" .. that's a double standard woke theory if I ever hear one. How about if I'd not like to be treated as if I have to cater towards everybody else's sense of self importance ? 🤔
 
dDUBb said:
Reminds me of something said during a jobsite safety meeting topic at work. It's some BS "awareness week" and they said something along the lines of "treat people how They want to be treated" .. that's a double standard woke theory if I ever hear one. How about if I'd not like to be treated as if I have to cater towards everybody else's sense of self importance ? 🤔
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"So you're telling me that I should kick the shit out of any masochists I encounter on the job, yes? And I guess any horny coworkers should get their wish, too? Interesting, I might want to work here a while. By the way, I prefer to be treated like a sex object by the hot women working here, should I put that on a t-shirt or something?"
 
XR7-4.6 said:
So once again the government wants the people who do question their every move alive? .....Or maybe the dead reanimate and become literal zombies and come for those of us who know what's REALLY going on!

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Ya, makes perfect sense. I think Bill Hicks explained how retarded that sort of "kill your fanbase" conspiracy theory sounds -


I mean, who said we were never questioning anything? I question a great deal though much of that is centered more around cosmology that doesn't square up with observed imagery and data.

But the best I hear from people who are anti-vax is some version of "I heard from this guy my friend knows" or "I saw on a video that this guy died right after he got vaccinated" or whatever. I'm no athlete, I'm in average shape. I got both initial vaccine shots and 2 out of the 3 boosters so far (I'll get the newest one soon, probably). Absolutely no bad side-effects here. I also drink Coke every day and eat some type of meat every meal, I also drink filtered tap water. Doctor says I'm fine. Not great, but not terrible like I have to change my diet and take these pills and I'm surprised you're still alive type comments. Once enough data showed up that supports the idea that being vaccinated against COVID is far better than not being vaccinated if you get COVID, not a guarantee of protection and also no guarantee that the vaccine won't negatively affect you if you're one of the rare people who react badly to it, I stopped thinking about it. Almost everyone I know is vaccinated, not one of them is dead or in the hospital because of it. It's the equivalent of wearing a seatbelt while in a moving car. But, ya, that's just what "they" want me to think!! I fell for it! Stupid stupid stupid! Now I'll be... not dead, and... what?

I was highly entertained by the few anti-vaxxers who were adult enough to concede they were dead (see what I did there?) wrong after they got COVID after refusing the vaccine (and telling everyone around them to also resist), ended up in the hospital and managed to record a video saying they had been full of shit and people should get vaccinated... and then died. I'm sure many others were too ashamed/embarrassed to try to warn others that everything they were claiming about big conspiracies was crap but they're just as dead. Less rantings to listen to, win-win.
 
rampagingsloth said:
I was highly entertained by the few anti-vaxxers who were adult enough to concede they were dead (see what I did there?) wrong after they got COVID after refusing the vaccine (and telling everyone around them to also resist), ended up in the hospital and managed to record a video saying they had been full of shit and people should get vaccinated... and then died. I'm sure many others were too ashamed/embarrassed to try to warn others that everything they were claiming about big conspiracies was crap but they're just as dead. Less rantings to listen to, win-win.
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I don't see what is "entertaining" about people suffering and dying, regardless of the reasons.
 
Chingon1 said:
@XR7-4.6 haha fair enough, I’ll keep you in mind in 50 years!!

@dDUBb you’re totally right, there plenty of things that are screwing us over. red 3 is going to be outlawed in a couple years also. Same thing with fluoride in the tooth paste and our tap water. Also aluminum in our deodorants.

I just really like to question and look into things because one’s health is no laughing matter and should be taken very seriously. You can be a millionaire but if your health's in the shitter, there’s no buying your way out of it.
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I'm not following you here, are you saying that eliminating Red #3 and brominated vegetable oil, which is used in some store brand sodas, and potassium bromate and propylparaben, two chemicals used in baked goods is a bad thing? After a quick search I found no reference to removing fluoride from toothpaste or tap water or aluminum from anti-antiperspirants. Can you tell me more about that?

It's good to question things. But don't be blinded by your bias and personal truth. Don't just see what you want to see. Don't refuse to believe a truth based on personal preference. Be open to other possibilities.

A good skeptic questions what they’re unsure of but recognizes when valid (or invalid or unverified) evidence is presented.
 
Derphound01 said:
I don't see what is "entertaining" about people suffering and dying, regardless of the reasons.
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You're right. There should be nothing "entertaining" about people dying. The point was that it is ironic that the same people who dismissed the vaccine that could have saved their lives died for their principals. It's a high price to pay for your beliefs, or on the flip side a Darwinian award worthy moment as they eliminated themselves through ignorance thereby improving our species' chances of long-term survival.

There are 3 or 4 children near me who are now orphans because their parents stood their ground based on bad information, caught COVID and died from what, at the time, was a preventable death because the vaccine was available. There are many cases like this across the country and I guarantee you there are more cases of people dying from not getting the vaccine than those who got it and subsequently died from vaccine complications.

Now, to Chingon1's point, yes. There are some who had adverse reactions to the vaccine. I don't discount that fact. However, they are a very, very small percentage of the billions of people world wide who did receive the vaccine.

If you haven't gotten the vaccine, fine. That's your prerogative. I don't judge you either way. What I do wish for you is that you're making an informed decision and not just arbitrarily deciding against it because of personal incredulity.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
If you haven't gotten the vaccine, fine. That's your prerogative. I don't judge you either way. What I do wish for you is that you're making an informed decision and not just arbitrarily deciding against it because of personal incredulity.
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Correct. We opted not to because at the time my wife was pregnant and we were concerned about the unknown effects it could have on our ability to have children in the future. This was exacerbated by a close friend who lost a healthy pregnancy within a week of getting her first shot. Whether it was coincidence or not, we were not willing to take the risk in 2021.

Should also note that at the time we discussed this heavily with my wife's OB/GYN. She supported our position. It was the middle of 2021 and she openly told us that the research wasn't solid enough at the time for her to recommend it in our situation. She also encouraged us to take extra precautions in social distancing and sanitation, which we did.

At the end of the day, it should be nobody's decision but yours as to whether or not you get it. It's not my place to tell you to or not to get it, but I'll die on the hill of it being your choice.

I see no "irony" in a comment about someone taking pleasure in the suffering and deaths of others.
 
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Trunk Monkey said:
You're right. There should be nothing "entertaining" about people dying. The point was that it is ironic that the same people who dismissed the vaccine that could have saved their lives died for their principals. It's a high price to pay for your beliefs, or on the flip side a Darwinian award worthy moment as they eliminated themselves through ignorance thereby improving our species' chances of long-term survival.

There are 3 or 4 children near me who are now orphans because their parents stood their ground based on bad information, caught COVID and died from what, at the time, was a preventable death because the vaccine was available. There are many cases like this across the country and I guarantee you there are more cases of people dying from not getting the vaccine than those who got it and subsequently died from vaccine complications.

Now, to Chingon1's point, yes. There are some who had adverse reactions to the vaccine. I don't discount that fact. However, they are a very, very small percentage of the billions of people world wide who did receive the vaccine.

If you haven't gotten the vaccine, fine. That's your prerogative. I don't judge you either way. What I do wish for you is that you're making an informed decision and not just arbitrarily deciding against it because of personal incredulity.
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1) Its not "true" darwinism if the candidate reproduces BEFORE they kill themselves. That means they lived long enough to pass their genes into the pool AND maybe some of their beliefs (in the case of being anti-vaxxers, some of which might have led to their deaths) as well.

2) I'm a little sad that I reignited the covid discussion by just stating that I got the lastest booster. What's done is done. Everyone who refused it and died is already gone. Everyone who refused it and/or continue to refuse it and thereby exposed someone to be compromised (or aided in the spread in 2020) has done or will continue to be a damper on herd immunity. Given that its endemic now, that part matters less. Most everyone (with or without any further boosters) who catch it will no longer die. Now, some of those may end up in medical bankrupcty and financial ruin because of their decision as some treatments are very, very expensive; it also wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these folks are also the same types of folks who refuse to buy insurance ... until they need it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

My biggest annoyance from all of this (back at the old forum and now it seems here) has been those who try to push their skepticism by "Just Asking Questions" -- aka JAQing off.
Good thing there is a mute user option :)
 
Derphound01 said:
Correct. We opted not to because at the time my wife was pregnant and we were concerned about the unknown effects it could have on our ability to have children in the future. This was exacerbated by a close friend who lost a healthy pregnancy within a week of getting her first shot. Whether it was coincidence or not, we were not willing to take the risk in 2021.

At the end of the day, it should be nobody's decision but yours as to whether or not you get it. It's not my place to tell you to or not to get it, but I'll die on the hill of it being your choice.

I see no "irony" in a comment about someone taking pleasure in the suffering and deaths of others.
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I'm sorry for your friend, I really am and I respect you and your wife's decision not to get the vaccine at the time.

Correct. The irony is not in the comment but in the circumstances of their decisions not to get vaxed, subsequently catching COVID and then dying from it when the vaccine very well could have saved their lives.

These people who lived very close to me felt the same way, died on the hill of it being their choice and left 4 orphans. Just something to consider.

people.com

Mom of 4 Dies of COVID 1 Week After Firefighter Husband as Family Urges Others to Get Vaccinated

Jeff Hager, a 24-year veteran of the fire department, died of COVID-19 on Sept. 10, and was followed by his wife, Amee
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Just for transparency, I did add an addendum to my last comment about how we discussed it with the doctors. Didn't want you to think I snuck that in after your comment to be sneaky or something.

It's sad when covid claims someone, regardless of their shot status. A gentleman I volunteered with every week was vaccinated fully, tested positive on a Wednesday, went to the hospital Saturday morning, and was gone Saturday night. He had no underlying conditions outside of covid that I knew of. As with the case of the family you posted, it was just a sad situation.

My stance on the matter has never involved whether anyone should or should not get the shots. I've never propagated the Alex Jones-esque conspiracies about their 5G tracking capabilities or DNA modifying abilities or whatnot. It's just a medical treatment and like all things medical, there is both risk and reward to accepting or refusing it.

As the vaccines improve and my age keeps going up, my current choice may change. It may not, too. Time will tell.

My stance all along is that it is your decision and your decision alone. Yes that decision should be an informed one discussed with your doctor, but at the end of the day it's nobody else's place to dictate your medical decisions.
 
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